_____ Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that: Fri Mar 15, 2013 2:28 am: Page 1 of 1 [ 3 posts ] Board. I believe they said they check out the local marshes, which would be really neat-a duck's eye view _____ Phil Robertson said,"It seems like, to me, a vagina -- as a man -- would be more desirable than a man's anus," Thu Apr 12. Location: greensboro n. Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:07 pm. Joined: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:06 pm. Re: Wiring killswitch predator 670. MMT Pro Member. Nor is it a fund raiser for anything, but I have leftover Flyway hats I'll let folks have for $25 and a sticker if you want one. Hope. The rest are hanging on nails in the trees and im tempted to go ahead and bait them up when i run tomorrow. They are not insuring the Briggs engine, they are ensuring the Gator Tail motor assembly. Re: mudbuddy 35 hd weight. stock 3 blade. New to the forum and mud boats. Location: Jefferson TX. But I have a outboard boat for most of the summer and fishing season anyway. Forum. You can run the motor at idle in gear and put your hand on the outdrive in those locations and feel if the bearings are grinding. MMT 1000 Club. I have an Excel 1860 F4. Joined: Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:28 pm. Getting ready for this season and have been tossing around the idea of a spare wheel. 2 weeks before duck hunting you can legally bait a pond with millow, or menced corn. Lund Alaskan Beavertail Blind Install*Update*. You can run the motor at idle in gear and put your hand on the outdrive in those locations and feel if the bearings are grinding. Posts: 50. Here's where I f'd up. Re: Hoss 75. 5 MPH. ), Wetsounds AS-10" sub with amplifier (29 lbs), Minn Kota 54" 55 lb trolling motor. Balancing a surface drive prop is an excellent idea. 5 river run on the same boat didn't come close. see the picture - go devil on left & gator tail on right. Gator Glide - 8 months later. My guess. _____ Gator Trax 1644 HD pushed by. . MMT 1000 Club. more. It came with a Q pipe and a 40" prop shaft. Duck bill is nice for flooded timber and it cut through some flooded willow tops like butter. MMT Addict. as a prior scavenger owner, its a good cheap motor. It is all down the one side of my belt housing , little bit on top of belt housing and looks of some sprayed on. I take a bird, open the breast and remove the breast meat. Re: Go Devil ignition system. I was going to go with the Fat Blade or Hammer and have Baggy work it. With this said I need a real duck boat! I spend the majority of my time hunting shallow muddy bottomed lakes with some heavy vegetation. Not much mud but sandy bottoms and some timber. Emissions" or "high altitude" give me any sort of noticeable. Copperhead 18 HP. Used a hvlp sprayer. Well worth the money! No replacement for displacement!!!!! Sent from my beeper. Re: Mud buddy drive question. Joined: Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:21 pm. All of them are different. Posts: 156. Posts: 605. Re: Go devil LT help!! The plunger on the fuel solenoid likes to get clogged up on those things. The bearings are in the flared housings on the outdrive. Go-Devil Props. Last visit was: Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:51 am: It is currently Thu Nov 23, 2023 4:51 amI'm runninng a Kohler command pro--25 hp. It will be going in a 1436 flat bottom. I went out a few nights later by myself and caught a few more in a couple of hours. You can remove the 4 screws out of the bottom of the football to reveal the switch wiring. My compression is higher than most, and mine spins over easily. Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:40 am. Trim runs smoother, faster and now I won't be burning up switches. Heavy ass still run 30. Re: go devil died today. Re: Pro Drive lower unit oil question. I would suspect your prop could be worn, High rpms and lost speed/load carrying ability is a symptom. I built a mud boat to run shit over, that's also why I bought a mud motor! Seems like a inflatable boat defeats the purpose of a mm. some days it's awesome most days it's average. I am looking to purchase a surface drive. I started with a 1436/ 18 HP GD. Motor has always been serviced including oil, plugs and shaft has always been lubricated with new bushings every season. When loaded down they won't plane properly, and they can't handle the mud or properly handle the weight of these motors. Re: 9" Prop for 25 GTR Big Block. I'd love to hear how your mods come out and what you did if you choose to do so. Available in low or high transom risers. I think a 23 should be around 4000 out of the water and 37-3800 in the water. Having trouble figuring out where my oil leak is coming from on Mud Buddy 35hp HD Sport. If your rpms are high, you can go to a 9x7 and your rpms will drop about 200. Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:10 pm: deadbird8. Rinse. Then unhook your factory motor kill switch to the ground wire that goes under the fuel tank there should be two bullet connections, take them apart. You'll be running about 13 with the heavy load you are talking about. I have Gx620 on go devel frame. 2 and really stuggled to get on plane. Joined: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:42 am Posts: 2377 Location: West Coast Wisconsin Re: Baiting Ducks. Had carb issues, eventually changed the carb and fixed the problem--ran 18. _____Joined: Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:10 am. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I547 using Tapatalk 2. Sun Sep 22, 2013 12:28 am. the clutch is about 211. You should be getting 12. 2007 36hp. So throw off. Heads, cam and carb will get you to 30 mph and 4200 rpms for about +-$2500. Frogs. Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:46 am. DIY about +-$1800. MMT Member. Last visit was: Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 am: It is currently Tue Nov 21, 2023 11:45 amrun it hard af or put it up. 5 it might be just what we need to get through another hunting/trapping season or two. I went to the Northwest Sportshow today and there was an Aquatraction booth. Hunt Deck ,with MB 4400 Black Death HDR, Duck Slaying, Mud Slingin Machine!!! Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:04 pm:. Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:42 am: da go get'er. Imagine my surprise when I looked back and saw my prop was gone. Just picked up a brand new Copperhead 23. Re: 22 HP Predator Longtail to Surface Drive. _________________. Location: Clear Lake, Tx. The extra 6” of width doesn’t feel like much till two people are on the front deck. shaggy blind (not installed yet) Keep your eye on their IG for more photos of my boat and on mine @prodigyboats & @ctm_luke. I used Midwest supercub I have the heads p&p with oversize valves, cam, and a gutted new style stainless steel exhuast, and the carb rejetted. Location: Conroe tx. on my 5-18hp it would bog down so much i dident even want to go through anything with it. So you got more clearance then you do with a GTR. talked with for a while the other day about the new 23 and it seems like it's a bad ass little motor, apparently getting 30 mph empty out of a 400 pound 15 foot boat, and 26 with 3 folks. Mud Buddy releasing the 25hp EFI Subaru motor in August. the original/oem cable on my gator tail is much thicker/beefier. This is my first banded bird and what better bird could it be on other than a bull double sprig pintail drake. Just take the time before and after each season to inspect your bushings and grease the shaft and make sure the inside of the pot housing is greased well. Joined: Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:03 am. I have a 1648 with a 35 mud buddy. That's not even really related to the Predator though. Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:39 pm. A guy at the launch and I had a conversation about this exact topic. seems too thick. Speeds | Deep Water:almost the same as shallow, 1mph slower at times. Only weighs 165lbs. 5hp longtail for just another $100 or so, but if I can push a canoe with the 2. The motor died and wouldn't restart. Grease piston-go devil. The 22hp wasn't alot faster, but it did have alot more torque. MMT Member. 7" SPS aluminum prop ( Dont hate unless you wanna buy me a stainless one!) 11 mph top speed by myself on a 14x36 Duracraft. Thu Jan 01, 2015 9:17 pm: fish_hook128. Bride~of~Chucky. MMT Super Elite Member. Posts: 1554. Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:02 am. DIY about +-$1800. 1754 prodigy vs 1854 prodigy. Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:26 am. Twist it right off. if you have the ne 2 wire pump, then no, but you can get a brand new 3 wire pump and reservoir, ready to go for $187. Re: Go Devil pressure greaser. Both are great motors I got one and another guy that duck hunts with me has the PD. Wed Jan 04, 2017 11:24 pm. orginal owner of 18 hp Vanguard Go Devil, purchased 1994. im interested in a getting a godevil duck skiff. Last visit was: Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:24 am: It is currently Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:24 amRun a 220 main and 22. Wchauvin. All times are UTC [ DST] Who is online: Users browsing this forum: Majestic-12 [Bot] and 64 guests. There are some things/considerations on some brands, (for example a BPS crossover exhaust doesn't work well with the GT plastic clutch cover) but carb kits. #CFFITR. gt throttle cable. Stuff looked nice, they had it cut out in patterns and fitted to a swim deck. And like stated above, it took about 3 day of me not doing anything to it before it started to really get rock hard. When trying to get on plane when the motor gets to a certain rpm it sounds like the orop blows out. Location: Wolf Bay,Alabama. they come in 1536, 1636, 1836. MMT 1000 Club. On my 1754 with 35gdsd i was getting 17 or 18 that was with it loaded with 4 guys 2 of which were bigger and 60 duck decoys and regular duck gear as well. Joined: Sun Aug 09, 2009 7:50 pm. It really makes a little difference when paired with a worked prop but only after the skeg has been cut. I understand this is not the best boat for the motor, I'm having a different one built but this is it for now. If you want to swirl wine and stay in a room where politics and investment diversity are. 18' Weldcraft - 90HP. Posts: 156. We have pilings drove for camps, and no wake signs. Mon Aug 05, 2019 9:53 pm: Wchauvin. MMT 1000 Club. . 1854 Prodigy Open. #CFFITR. I put no seize back on the threads. Looks like a high school shop project that a blind kid completed. {motor pulls fine with the rope start}. 5, 14 and 25HP. Location: carrollton MS. In trying to diagnose the problem, with the ignition switch in the run position I used a jumper cable to connect to the battery + terminal, and touched it to the starter terminal on the solenoid. Now i have a 35 GTR on the same boat and it runs 31 MPH with out any issues! Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:23 pm. Joined: Tue Dec 15, 2009 3:16 pm Posts: 612 Location: Orange, Texas Re: Pro drive boat or Go devil? Tue Jun 27, 2017 2:17 pm: Rick. MMT 1000 Club. _____ 1554 excel- custom MB sport totin a stage II generac temporarily 20XRD Bullet- 300X Merc: Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:21 pm: Chico80x. First night we left a little early and caught a lil mess of bass before the sun went down. when it is idling, you will hear a distinct, "tick", sound from the engine, and it will idle down or run rough for a few seconds. . _____ Back Yard Bullshit 1848 with Delta stage. Mudbuddy 5000 efi question. Posts: 1490. I have cam and heads but this should be a good starting point. Engine sounds good--but i don't have a tach yet so i'm not certain how many. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. 's recommend a 9x7 prop for the 27 HP Kohler LT. Had a little condensation in the throat. Re: Trim and tilt not working? Agree its probably the switch on the football, when the trim won't work in either direction the common points are the ckt breaker, switch, or actuator. Mines a 2014 had the motor a year with 9 hours on it and it does drip water out the tail end just can't seem to figure out how to get the lower gear off and prop off to get them damn bearings out to check or replace thanks for your input as well I'm in Washington state and hardly a soul up here with a mud motor of any sort or help besides rummaging. 16 minutes in to my first time out I was stranded with a broken belt. I pulled my barge off of some high and dry marsh after running up into the brush to make a blind location. MMT 1000 Club. Keep in mind I've only run this boat with these new mods for about 10 minutes, so I'm sure there's a bit more to be desired. JPG IMG_2521. Joined: Thu Jan 22, 2015 1:09 am Posts: 105. The GT serial number is what their agent is looking for. DUCK HEARSE. The k&n pre filter had some water in the bottom of it, so it may have pulling a fine mist of water and messing up fuel delivery. Turn the idle screw in a few turns. They ain't worth it . find a good prodrive repair place and they might give you that piece. DatGator. 3 blade harder to spin than 2 blade if everything is equal. Just me, just sayin. Copperhead height above transom. MMT Member. 06-06-2013, 07:33 PM #16. im not going to jump on anything when im ready ill have until next season to decide but ive read a ton of good things about the copperhead pushing a big load very well. I have a primer bulb in the box but don't run the motor with it on- mine doesn't need it. 16x48'' boats are for people who have never run 20' boats. Would love to hear your thoughts. MMT Member. Third time I went out solo again, scouted some new areas, found a good concentration of frogs. i6/50 GT W 4400 Hdr i have always ran a Hammer,like it cause its beefier and last longer than a BB. Plows water with more than one guy in the boat, running it alone or with a kid it's as fast as you'd expect, but it has torque to get you there loaded. You could just look at Mac, and tell he was a cut above. My guess. You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. Please Help! Leak test to make sure the valves are sealing, and also make sure your coil is Firing. I used PTI zinc chromate green primer. I want to install a killswitch. Running two motors has the benefit of redundancy but a larger hp single would have a place in this market. Re: centrifugal clutches. Bride~of~Chucky. It's a fine looking boat and you sure run it in a lot of different areas. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. 25hp longtail 14x42 17-20mph tops deep water. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Excel 1851F4 w/ MB35HD+R CDI with a little bit of this and little bit of that. Re: mud buddy clutches. 58 after tax. The ca57 for the gatortail and the hammer prop are also hard hard wheels. Then sew up the breast and then I am legal. When they jump you can usually see a mark from where pushrod tried to run. Only mod is a marshmellow muffler. Fri Jun 05, 2015 12:39 am. U may have to use a cheater pipe on it if it's been a while since removed. Speeds were taken with Navionics GPS app on my iPhone. has a seperate red wire lead attached on the side of key switch. The front storage is limited but it did fit 4 life jackets, throwable, and fire extinguisher. That is one reason why others like the longer boats. With me my wife and the yeti Im getting 24 maybe 25. 16/44 is a nice size boat the 35 will get you up on plane but easing through shallows your but ill be dragin, the 27 will be 90lbs lighter but you will give up the top speed. Re: 22hp predatpr mods and top speeds. It came from the factory with 492932, but I purchased the 842921. There's a wire on each side of the cylindrical mercury switch. Just make sure you run the right spring in it. Joined: Wed May 27, 2009 2:20 am Posts: 47 Location: The-Way, Texas, east- CENTRAL texas Re: Mud buddy sport v. He was a Kansas boy, skilled with rifle, good in the woods, had played 4 years of college football, worked in the oil fields, and was a pre-packaged bad-ass. Other than that their all the same. get a mud motor. Hey ichabod. Who is online. Roughly 55 hours on my 40hp. 5 HP Predator, cost $110 at my local Harbor Freight. Contact us. On a stock motor I was turning a big blade 3800 bout 21-22 mph. Originally they were going to use the Subaru, but ended up going Kohler. Joined: Fri Jan 10, 2014 6:40 am. Two corner boxes. Location: South Louisiana. Just bought a 1648 Crestliner Modified V hull with a 2001 Go-devil long tail with 350 hours. Posts: 606. Made an adjustment at the governor and now it turns just under 3,600 in the water. Joined: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:46 am. Joined: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:38 am Posts: 10201 Location: SETX Re: Deer Hunting Angelina National Forest (Sam Rayburn Lake. Looking at getting a 9hp and wondered if one was better than the other. Re: Dam B, Texas duck hunting. Re: Dog ramp on floating duck blind. Location: Michigan. Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 am. Re: Kem 400. I'm exploring several options for my next boat. This should be a nice set up. If we had a jon boat I would probably step up to the 6. One wire will come from the tethered kill switch and the other will be a short section of wire about 4-5". 5 mph empty, rough water, ~ 3-6 feet. . 5- 31 mph with a light load. Sat Jan 30, 2016 3:49 pm: cmk07c. JPG IMG_2521. Joined: Thu May 07, 2015 3:57 pm. Well have at lesst 2-3 boats going. Duck Run. 5hp Lt on a 12ft john that I use in my duck pond instead of paddling a pirogue. Predator 670 motor help needed. 3. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Most Briggs motors that have electric start have a 16 amp alternator. Re: SURFACE DRIVES IN DEEP WATER. im pushing around a 14 foot riveted with a 23 gdlt. . With that said I cannot comment on how well a Vanguard likes 5 degrees F because it just does not get that cold here. It's the stock configuration as far as prop/gearing. Get the 40, if you want an exhaust buy one, personally the stock 40 exhaust is pretty loud. . We'll be staying at one of the campgrounds on the wma. Joined: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:18 am. at least that's been my experience the last 2 years I've been there. Hi folks, I have an old 1432 Quichita running a Mud-skipper kit with a Predator 420. Re: Copperhead 23 reviews. Run shallow, run loud. Want to run shallow too and dry _____ JReese 1754 GatorTrax w/ MB 6000 customized by EVT: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:36. Location: Mandeville, LA. you will definitely like what it does for your motor. While picking up decoys idling around it sputters and loses power and wants to kill and when I try to get up and run she runs like garbage for a while. ran a solid 34mph deep water at 4480rpm this weekend and ran 29. Re: 35 Hp vanguard upgrade help. This is not a race, it is not a poker run, it is just a cruise. Ok motor guys I got a condition going on I thought I burnt a exhaust valve but I pulled both heads and valves they look fine,no holes chips or Burt metal but the dam thing just recently started popping and shooting a 3 inch flame @. I have seen bad connections where the wire meets the connectors. Tools required: You will need a crescent wrench, some pliers and a screw driver. Share. I use the toro key because it covers the key area, but any Briggs key should work. The k&n is a good choice for air filter and oil filter. Plus and outboard will probably have a better weight to power ratio to push it. Jason and crew came through perfect on this skiff. 0. Almost all builders count the hunt deck as part of the length. I believe they stoped making the threaded shaft for those motors. Anyone have one? Looking at getting one for a carstens canvasback. Put a crescent on the top nut against ur cavation plate and put a big crowbar between the blades on prop. Looks like from everything I've seen online that the original 9hp Briggs and 23 Briggs have same pto height and bolt Circumference pattern on back of motors bolt mounting pattern for the base is off alittle but just have to drill two holes and change prop size from 8x4 I have now to the 9x6 and work on balance of motor after mounting it all up . _____ 1648 gd hull flying in front of a stage 3 with fpr: Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:53 am:Like most, I started with a Go Devil, the first on the block, and they make a good product but MB's bearing drive system was a definite improvement, I assume Backwater's is similar (oh yeah, Beavertail also was in the changes group). Stock 23 GTR with 3 ribbed Southfork 1644. I would suspect your prop could be worn, High rpms and lost speed/load carrying ability is a symptom. Re: lost Key. I run a 9 and 16hp ltgd on a 1442 in the same type of waters. Please Help! Leak test to make sure the valves are sealing, and also make sure your coil is Firing. (completes to ground). 5" to 10" in diameter. com - View topic - hard sided duck blind build. Reaper Prop. The 2 blade is for duck season in serious tough conditions as well as heavy loads. 00 per year. That helped alot with stability too. Whatever kind of metal they use is hard as rock. Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:10 am Posts: 1872 Re: Big Blade vs Hammer on Mud Buddy 5000. _________________. 22 is hauling ass with all but a 35 longtail. Location: Duck Hill & Starkville, MS Duck Blind question. Went frogging a few times last week. ADVISE on a Longtail in Shallow waters Rocky bottoms. 1648 Go Devil with 35hp GDSD Surface Drive Speeds. Duralux has a Yellow primer that you can buy. B. Do a before and after pics if you can. MMT 1000 Club. Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:41 pm. The majority of the time problems are caused by air leaks, bad primer bulbs, or dirt. 2875 Views 5 Replies 3 Participants Last post by macdaddykeefer, Feb 7, 2013 Jump to Latest M. let it sit for 30 minutes are so. MMT 1000 Club. Fri Jan 01, 2010 4:11 am:Posted this also under 3 boat gator glide review. My carb is getting to much fuel and floods. I have steel flex on the bottom of a 1436 with a LT on it. . 0-32. Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:03 pm. Posts: 250. I don't believe they are in operation anymore unfortunately. It was wild. Cameron, SC 29030. Run it on a fiberglass Indian River canoe. 1644 Southfork with 2009 23hp GTR. For the best results I would apply directly to the aluminum. He has added a cam, carb, and push rods thinks hes running 25 26 now. Posts: 183. _____ #CFFITR -Custom pool noodle. This evening I enjoyed another hunt in the pit blind with my uncle and his client. Joined: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:50 am Posts: 3833 Location: Old East Dallas, Texas Re: Mud buddy 5500 Black DeathRe: 23 Vanguard Charging System? 1) you can look for the voltage regulator on the side of the motor. 028 - . Hi everyone! I'm new to both mudmotortalk and to mud boats.